Batsman Victoria

(aka Potapenko Victoria, aka Grechuha Yulia from Lugansk, aka DJNatasha from Saransk)

Lugansk, Ukraine / Saransk, Russia 

Tel. - n/a

Address: Levtchenko Block,13A, 91, Lugansk / Ukraine, Lugansk, Titova str. 7/15,

e-mail: vica@vega.cci.lg.ua , grechuha@vega.cci.lg.ua  djnatasha2002@rambler.ru  

DOB: April 29th,1981, December 9th,1981, May 9 1975


Dear Elena,

I would like to report to you about a scammer or a scam by several agencies, it is hard to tell these days and I will let you be the judge. 

The scammer in question is Victoria Batsman from Lugansk. Her e-mail address is vica@vega.cci.lg.ua at Chance Agency, and her home mailing address is Victoria Batsman, Levtchenko Block,13A,91, Lugansk, Ukraine, DOB is April 29th,1981 ( no phone of course). 

Under the profile at Discovery her name is Victoria Potapenko and her DOB is December 9th,1981. 

Under another profile at Matchdoctor, her age is 27 years old and is from Saransk, Russia with a DOB May 9th, 1975 and has an e-mail address of djnatasha2002@rambler.ru

The reason I feel she is a scammer, besides the obvious fact of having different profiles and living in Russia and Ukraine, she of course hinted about money in her letters to me right away (obvious scam alert). 

In her letters from Vega Agency, she also gave me the agency address when I specifically requested her home mailing address several times. The only reason I knew this was not her home mailing address is that I was also writing to Julia Grechuha at the exact same time and they both gave me the same home mailing address of the agency and also had some the exact same wording in their letters to me on the very same day, how stupid can you be ( obvious scam alert). 

Julia Grechuha from Vega Agency also hinted about money in her letters to me as well. This shows me that the Vega Agency is probably writing so many pre-written cut and paste letters that they can not keep track of all of them all. 

Discovery Agency is very similar in that they try to get you to send them money for letters and translations after the second letter to them. They also have many posting of the exact same women but with different names and different profiles, very strange indeed!

I also received a letter from DJNatasha (Matchdoctor) from Saransk, Russia with the exact same photos as Victoria Batsman in them, may be just a coincidence once again-NOT! Something smells very fishy here and I suspect scammers are up to no good once again.


Victoria has a profile listed at Vega Agency http://www.vega-agency.com/Profil_Gerls1.html and also under Discovery Agency with the name of Victoria Potapenko at http://www.discovery-ua.com/galler/x664/potapenko.htm and also at Anastasia #41891 (This is a good site in my opinion) which have just been removed by them. Both Discovery and Vega Agencies have some negative reports on them already http://scamalert.freeservers.com/parasiticagencies.html and are listed as parasitic agencies and have many questionable ladies ( possible scammers). Chance Agency
http://www.chanceagency.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?request=general&age=18 
should also be included in this list of agencies "to beware of", as they try and sucker you into sending them money for letters, gifts and translations for women who may or may not exist. 

Many of the same ladies (scammers) are on Chance Agency, Vega Agency and also Discovery Agency web pages ( May be it is just some coincidence-NOT!) Something is obviously not right here, I am not sure if the women know anything about what is going on here or may be they do, I can not say but you can be the judge of this. I do know that Vega Agency, Chance Agency and Discovery Agency are not to be trusted in my opinion. Please add these agencies to your bad list as well as Victoria Batsman and Juliya Grechuha.

Sincerely,

S.H.

see letters from Batsman Victoria

see letter from Grechuha Yulia

see letters from DJNatasha

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Subject: Victoria Batesman from Vega Letter #1
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:29:34 -0800

----- Original Message ----- 
From: < Batsman_v@talkmatch.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: Victoria


"Vega LLC" Ukrainian Internet Dating Agency
Ukraine, Lugansk
mailto: agency@vega.cci.lg.ua 
www.vega-agency.com   

The member of the "Vega" agency Victoria Batsman wrote:
__________________________________________________

Hi there Ted,

Here I am replying to your interest in me. First of all I have to say
thanks for your letter and for your attempt to start correspondence
with me.
Judging by the fact that you wrote to me, I can say that you like the
way I look. I can remind you. I am blond with green eyes, rather slim
and attractive. So you are very interested in my inner world, perhaps.
And of course you want to know something about my everyday life. In
this letter I will do my best to make you understand who you are
writing to.
First about my family. I have a mother, a sister and a brother, they
are the closest people for me. We have very strong relations in our
family, we take care of each other and love each other very much.
I was brought up in a very friendly surrounding and I am very family
oriented person, cause my mother made her best to bring me up in this
way.
I am the student now. I study at Lugansk pedagogical University. I am
trying to get journalistic education. I like this profession, I think
I match it. I can be very inquisitive sometimes. I do my best now
cause I want to become a real professional in my future job. I
actually like to be a professional in any thing, I think if I do
something I have to do it well.
I enjoy lots of things in this life. I like dancing, reading, cooking,
and even cleaning the house. As you can see I can become a
professional wife one day <smile>. I have a hobby, it's horse riding.
This is the thing that I really adore. This is the place where I can
feel absolutely relaxed. I also have shaping as a hobby. I prefer to
stay in a good shape.
I have a cat at home. And I must say that I like animals very much and
I can't stand cruelty towards them.
I like music very much. I prefer classical, Latin and modern music. It
helps me to get energy sometimes and sometimes it helps me to relax. I
really enjoy listening to good music.
I can say that I have no ideals in my life. This concerns men as well.
I think that all people are different and that's why none of them can
be ideal. Nobody knows what is the ideal. That's why I am searching
for a man who will match me. I know there is such a man. I would
prefer him to be right for me and that's all. Age or appearance is
nothing to do with real feelings, that's why I don't care about them.
What is inside is more important than what is outside, I think.
I hope you liked what I have told you about me and I will be very glad
to get your reply soon.
With my best wishes,
Victoria.  
vica@vega.cci.lg.ua
  

(compare to the letter from Grechuha Yulia!)

Subject: Victoria Batesman from Vega Letter #2 Agency Address
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:30:43 -0800

----- Original Message -----
From: "Batsman" < vica@vega.cci.lg.ua
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:06 AM
Subject: Victoria




> "Vega LLC" Ukrainian Internet Dating Agency
> Ukraine, Lugansk
> mailto: agency@vega.cci.lg.ua 
> www.vega-agency.com 
>
> The member of the "Vega" agency Victoria Batsman wrote:
> _________________________________________________
>
> Hello Ted ,
>
> I would like to thank you for your letter. It was very pleasant for me
> to get it. Thanks for the photos. You are very attractive and very

well-built.

> Your letter is very interesting. It seems to me that you you have a very

interesting and very active, I like active people.

> I would like to tell you some more details about my personality. The
> main aim in my life now is to get good education and after that to
> find some well-paid and interesting job, though it is not that easy to
> do. I think such things as job are very important, they make people
> work hard, though I don't want to involve all my life with the
> job. Family is more important for me. But it doesn't mean that I would
> marry anyone just to have the family, I think I'll better be waiting
> for my true love till the end of my life than marry anyone.
> My friends say I'm sometimes shy, but I think everybody should have a
> little bit of shyness in his character, it is the feature of the

human-being.

> Spare time. What can I tell you about that? First of all I try not to
> have too much of it and I prefer to make myself busy with something
> when I have any spare time, but then it's not a spare time. Still if I
> am really tired and when I need some rest, I prefer to change the
> environment, like to go somewhere far or to visit my friends that I
> haven't visited for a long time, or just to have a walk, or just to
> have a long sleep. It depends on the degree of my tiredness <smile>.
> But when I have a vacation, for example, and I have a lot of spare
> time, then I prefer to travel, to leave my town and to go to another
> or most of all I enjoy going to the seaside or to the mountains. Those
> are the places where I can have a real rest. I can say that I would
> prefer to stay with the nature to be in harmony with it and with
> myself. But I don't think I like staying alone, I enjoy having fun
> with my friends or family. And I've always been dreaming about a
> vacation with a man that I would be in love with. This could be the
> ideal of spending my spare time. What about you? What kind of spending
> your time would you prefer to have?
> I'll tell you unpleasant news today. I have to confess that I don't know
> English at all. I was very lazy at school to learn it, I never thought
> it could be useful for me. I was wrong at that time and now I really
> regret not having learned English properly. But I don't lose my hope
> to learn it. I have found a very special course of English and I am
> going to go there to start learning English form the beginning. I am
> almost ready for that, the only thing that bothers me is the price of
> this course, it's rather expensive for me, but as soon as I have the
> necessary sum of money I'll start learning English, I promise.
> I hope you are not very much disappointed by that. I will be able to
> speak good English one day, I suppose. Do you believe me?
>
> Who makes the translation then? I am the client of the marriage
> agency. They help me to translate the letter from Russian into English
> and in opposite. Otherwise, I won't be able to put the information
> about me into the Internet, I don't have any access to the Internet.
> So as you can see there are lots of problems with our correspondence.
> I have to pay for everything, so sometimes I won't be able to reply on
> time, my replies can be late.
> I hope all those things can become a barrier between us and I hope you
> will continue writing to me. And I will be waiting for your replies.
> My dear friend, I haven't the telephone at home, but if you'd like to
> call me, I can come to the agency and can have a talk with you with
> you with the help of the translator. The number is + 380642580644.
> But the one thing we should arrange is the time of your call.
> My regular post address is:
> Ukraine, Lugansk, 91055,
> Titova str. 7/15,
> Batsman Victoria.
>
> My dear I believe in fate, a little bit, but you see only the fate
> can make us more closer to each other and to make not only true
> friends but some more to each other. I have some new pictures for
> you!!!
>
> Good bye my friend,
> I'm thinking of you!!!
> Truly yours,
> Victoria.


Subject: Victoria Batesman from Vega Letter #3 Real Address
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:31:34 -0800


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Batsman" vica@vega.cci.lg.ua 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:14 AM
Subject: Victoria



> "Vega LLC" Ukrainian Internet Dating Agency
> Ukraine, Lugansk
> mailto: agency@vega.cci.lg.ua 
> www.vega-agency.com 

> The member of the "Vega" agency Victoria Batsman wrote:
> _________________________________________________

> Hello my dear friend Ted,
> I'm so happy to hear from you again and more over I can confess that I
> began to think about you!!!!
> I'm happy that you have had nice holiday of Thanks giving and a
> turkey!!!
> My dear its a real winter in Ukraine, the weather is so
> cold and
> windy, nearly 10 degrees below zero!!!Everyone is hurrying
> in the
> streets and wear the fur coats and hats and gloves!!! More
> over it's
> slippery!!! I prefer the winter , when it's cold but sunny
> and the
> show is sparkling in the sun, like the small diamonds!!!
> I like the snowy winter to have the opportunity to go
> skate or ski,
> it's my favourite way of spending free time in winter from
> the
> childhood!!! Of course it's very good that we have central
> heating in
> the flats, or we all will be frozen!!
> As for my address my dear, Ukraine,
> Lugansk,
> Levtchenko Block, 13 A/ 91
> Batsman Victoria.
> My birthday is on the 29 of April, I'm a Taurus, according to the
> astrological sign and I'm energetic and demanding and ambitious a
> little! I know what I want and usually try to get it. I never give up
> without a fight, frankly speaking I like to be on the top, I hate to
> Lose.
> My dear, I'm always thinking about you,
> Tenderly yours,
> Victoria.__
> vica@vega.cci.lg.ua 


Letter from Grechuha Julia

(compare to the letter from Batsman Victoria)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Grechuha" grechuha@vega.cci.lg.ua 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:02 AM
Subject: Juiliya



> Vega LLC Internet Dating agency
> Ukraine, Lugansk
>
> mailto: agency@vega.cci.lg.ua 
> www.vega-agency.com 
> _____________________________________________
>
> Dearest Ted!
> I was glad to hear from you. Thank you also for your pictures. I think
> you are very attractive man.
> I'll start with bad news today. I have to confess that I don't know
> English at all. I was very lazy at school to learn it, I never thought
> it could be useful for me. I was wrong at that time and now I really
> regret not having learned English properly. But I don't lose my hope
> to learn it. I have found a very special course of English and I am
> going to go there to start learning English form the beginning. I am
> almost ready for that, the only thing that bothers me is the price of
> this course, it's rather expensive for me, but as soon as I have the
> necessary sum of money I'll start learning English, I promise.
> I hope you are not very much disappointed by that. I will be able to
> speak good English one day, I suppose. Do you believe me?
>
> Who makes the translation then? I am the client of the marriage
> agency. They help me to translate the letter from Russian into English
> and in opposite. Otherwise, I won't be able to put the information
> about me into the Internet, I don't have any access to the Internet.
> So as you can see there are lots of problems with our correspondence.
> I have to pay for everything, so sometimes I won't be able to reply on
> time, my replies can be late.
> I hope all those things can become a barrier between us and I hope you
> will continue writing to me. And I will be waiting for your replies.
> I would be very glad to give you phone number but the problem is that
> I don't speak English at all, so we won't be able to communicate. But
> I can give you the phone number of the marriage agency, I use their
> service cause I don't have computer at home and as I've already said i
> don't speak English. We could talk in the agency, they will give us
> an interpreter. Their phone number is 38 0642 58 06 44. but before

calling

> there you'll have to mail me when should I come to talk to you.( the
> time)But don't forget about the time difference between our countries.
> I am waiting for your reply. If you are ready to do all that, then
> just say when you will call.
> My postal address is Ukraine, Lugansk, Titova street 7/15 and postal
> code is 91055.
> Well, I end my letter here, I would like to know your opinion about
> everything I wrote here,
> hope to hear from you very soon,
> sincerely, Juliya.
>
> grechuha@vega.cci.lg.ua 



Letter from DJNatasha

Hello Ted!
I have received yours e-mail address from matchdoctor.com. I hope that you have
recollected me. My ID DJNatasha.
Thank to you for your interest. Now I am not sure that you are
interested in the relations with me. I send you some photos and probably
if you will find me good looking I can write to you more in detail about
my life. Please write about your life and that you want in life and send
some your photos. I shall answer necessarily.
I think that you heard about tragedy in our country. It is awful. Though
war far in Chechnya, we constantly feel a vote of war. We constantly
receive news about the lost soldiers and peace inhabitants, we
frequently hear about the terrorist acts which happen on all our
country. It is a trouble. I do not know that you could hear in your
country. It was the capture 750 hostages at the centre of Moscow. All
our country 3 days lived only by expectation of destiny these
unfortunate people. In a result when the Chechen gangsters (they were
under drugs and a lot of alcohol) have begun to kill of the hostages our
government was is compelled to make a decision on storm the seized
building. All 50 gangsters were destroyed from them there were 18 women.
2 gangsters have taken in captivity. But were lost 119 hostages. It is
awful.
Ted I shall not describe all my emotions in this occasion. I think that you
understand all and sympathize our tragedy.
Now, as you know my name Natasha.
Bye! Good luck!
Natasha.


2nd Letter from DJNatasha

Hello my new friend Ted!

Thank for your letter and photo. I am happy that you have the serious attitudes to continue acquaintance with me. I for the first time use such opportunity of acquaintance. Very interestingly as far as it can be real. Unfortunately I am compelled to begin the letter from a not so good word. I want to be honour with you and I you not should speak that not first and not unique who I wrote. I hope that you understand me. Probably sometime I shall write only to you. Unfortunately not all men also have such as you the serious attitude. 2 days back I have written the letter and has sent photos to the man on a name Quentin from Argentina. It is the madman. Or patient man. And now he sends me photos (disgusting) and my letter box can be full. I try frequently to delete it, but it does not help. Therefore I am compelled to receive the new address. I ask you to answer me on djnatasha2002@rambler.ru It is my new address. Forgive that I write you such things, but it is necessary.

So, I promised to tell to you about my life. Ммм from what to begin? I shall try. Who I am? I the Russian girl which never was marriage and I have no children. You will ask why. A logical question, but very difficult. Probably it is the high requirements to the man. Understand, I do not want to find beautiful as Alain Delon and strong as Arnold Shwarzenegger. I want to give all my life for the real man. Serious, clever, strong but gentle and romantic, which will be cares of me and our children, will divide with me troubles and pleasures, to preserve our family. It seems very little but in a reality it very seriously.

I live in city Saransk in republic Udmurtia in central part of Russia. It is magnificent city. Very old and very beautiful. In our city there are a lot of churches and temples. I very much love to go for a walk on streets of my city and to listen to music of bells. I live in a small apartment on far from city centre. This apartment I was presented by my parents when to me there were 20 years old.

Ted I have finished medical institute and now I work the doctor-pediatr in one hospital of my city and 2 times in week I work radio-DJ. I very much love my work, I love children and I love to help children. But sometimes my work brings to me a lot of disappointments. My work it basically to visit families which the patients children have. Sometimes it is awful. Some families are a hell for the child. Some parents drink alcohol, use drugs, beat children. It is terrible. What man can grow up from such family? I try to give all forces for the help to children. Children this our future and we need to care of children. My other work is participation in organization till protection of children. It is good organization, where work in the basic woman: the doctors, teachers, psychologists etc. we do not receive money for our work, but we receive more. We receive love and gratitude of children, each child, to which we have helped is a drop in ocean of our future. And we are sure that our "drops" not poison and not the dirt is pure and honour children which never will cause evil to someone. 

I can much speak about it, but I think that you first of all now interested by details of my life. I was born May 9 1975. My parents the teachers. I very much love my parents. They have learned me to love the literature and have given me good education. My English is not so good, but is above the average level. Is a merit my daddy, which constantly learned me. Now I have forgotten much, but I think what my English is good enough that you understood me? My parents wanted to see me also by teacher but I from childhood dreamed to be the children's doctor and now I has carried out it. I have the older sister, which lives in Rome (Italy) and works there in a travel company. She very beautiful and clever woman. But not so happy in personal life as well as I because have much higher moral principles than I. And I am afraid, that she still will be long to search the man of her dream. I have written to her that I want to try to search the man of my dream using the Internet, she has answered that I the silly girl and it not really. But I have decided to try and very much I hope that it probably.

Now I should go to my work. Ted I wanted to write more but my English I am not so good and I write slowly sometimes using the dictionary. Some more words about my appearance. Please do not think that I am beautiful as the model. I the usual woman. My daddy has the friend which professional photographer and he made these photos. Probably later I shall send you not professional photos but now I have no it.

I wait your letter on djnatasha2002@rambler.ru  

Best wishes!

Your Russian friend

Natasha.


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